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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-869</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2003 02:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Note:&lt;/strong&gt; I&#039;ve decided to close off the comments for this entry early. Please read the update at the end of the original entry text above for an explanation.

Thanks to all who contributed.</description>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-868</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2003 22:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t contributed often over the years to the general knowledge base writing articles, but instead I work one-on-one with people on bulletin boards and directly face-to-face. This isn&#039;t glamourous, nor name-building work, but I believe it gives back to the community in other, less-tangible, ways.

I also to a lot of ghost coding for other designers, which I find challenging. About 75% of my business is &quot;sub-contracting&quot;.

Writing ground-breaking and influential articles would be fun, but at the moment running my business successfully and raising my family take precedence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t contributed often over the years to the general knowledge base writing articles, but instead I work one-on-one with people on bulletin boards and directly face-to-face. This isn&#8217;t glamourous, nor name-building work, but I believe it gives back to the community in other, less-tangible, ways.</p>
<p>I also to a lot of ghost coding for other designers, which I find challenging. About 75% of my business is &#8220;sub-contracting&#8221;.</p>
<p>Writing ground-breaking and influential articles would be fun, but at the moment running my business successfully and raising my family take precedence.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Jen</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-867</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms. Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2003 22:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just because some of us are not center-stage type, does not mean we donâ€™t exist :)&quot; - noted Steph

I have to agree with Steph.  I am a freelance web designer, writer, and photographer.  Whild I do go  to SXSW and I read/view/follow the sites of many innovators, but I am quite happy to be apart of the chorus.  In my own work I am interested in good web standards design, but I am more interested in creating content and encouraging others to create content, thus I have not been actively involved in the larger design community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just because some of us are not center-stage type, does not mean we donâ€™t exist :)&#8221; &#8211; noted Steph</p>
<p>I have to agree with Steph.  I am a freelance web designer, writer, and photographer.  Whild I do go  to SXSW and I read/view/follow the sites of many innovators, but I am quite happy to be apart of the chorus.  In my own work I am interested in good web standards design, but I am more interested in creating content and encouraging others to create content, thus I have not been actively involved in the larger design community.</p>
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		<title>By: Alanna</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-866</link>
		<dc:creator>Alanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2003 19:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel a little bit embarrassed about raising my hand, since &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.virginmoistness.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my personal website&lt;/a&gt; isn&#039;t at all CSS/XHTML standards compliant -- I&#039;m somewhat new to the issue, but rather passionate about it and am constantly learning more. I haven&#039;t gotten around to recoding my own site yet, but I have been using XHTML/CSS as much as possible at work (I&#039;m the web-design department). Most of my tableless sites are still in progress. I&#039;m also working on redesigning my roommates blog to be completely tableless CSS/XHTML, but that probably won&#039;t be released to the public until the end of the year... I&#039;ll be submitting that one to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.9rules.com/cssvault/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CSS Vault&lt;/a&gt; when it is. :)

I find my work enivronment is very unusual. It&#039;s a small internet software company, with a pretty even mix of males and females. Actually, it used to be prodominately female, but the company has been expanding lately and taking in more employees. The CTO is a man, but he doesn&#039;t do any programming. His wife (and co-owner) is a genius programmer who went to college at the age of 14 and has so much work coming her way that she barely ever sleeps. She works 7 days a week. The second highest programmer is also female. The two new programmers are male, but still manage to be brilliant. ;) I&#039;m in charge of the web design &quot;department&quot; which is me and my male intern. I don&#039;t really think my company reflects the norm of the industry. I have also slowly moved from a specific interest in web design into a heady mix of programming. I will soon be returning to college for a Bachelors in Web Development or Information Technology.

Now to stop tooting my own horn, since someone already mentioned &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.netdiver.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;netdiver&lt;/a&gt;, here&#039;s some more...

-Melanie Groux of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brushstroke.tv&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;brushstroke.tv&lt;/a&gt; is inspirational
-Anna Dorfman of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.absolutely-vile.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;absolutely vile&lt;/a&gt; recently recoded her site in CSS.
-&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sushiesque.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sushiesque.com&lt;/a&gt; may be part template, but I&#039;ve seen her previous work and know she knows all about great design.
-Danica of &lt;a href=&quot;http://applepear.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Applepear&lt;/a&gt; does amazing things with CSS
-&lt;a href=&quot;http://jodyferry.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jody Ferry&lt;/a&gt; is a webdesigner with a CSS portfolio site
-My friend, &lt;a href=&quot;http://maybe.iotoeuropa.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Persephone&lt;/a&gt;, does a good job coding her site in CSS and offering various CSS skins...
-Lori at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.apparentlynothing.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Apparently Nothing&lt;/a&gt; is great with minimalism
-&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uglygreenchair.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Ugly Green Chair&lt;/a&gt; is clean and gorgeous

...and others that have already been named.

I&#039;ll try to keep my eyes open for more to add later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel a little bit embarrassed about raising my hand, since <a href="http://www.virginmoistness.com/" rel="nofollow">my personal website</a> isn&#8217;t at all CSS/XHTML standards compliant &#8212; I&#8217;m somewhat new to the issue, but rather passionate about it and am constantly learning more. I haven&#8217;t gotten around to recoding my own site yet, but I have been using XHTML/CSS as much as possible at work (I&#8217;m the web-design department). Most of my tableless sites are still in progress. I&#8217;m also working on redesigning my roommates blog to be completely tableless CSS/XHTML, but that probably won&#8217;t be released to the public until the end of the year&#8230; I&#8217;ll be submitting that one to the <a href="http://www.9rules.com/cssvault/" rel="nofollow">CSS Vault</a> when it is. :)</p>
<p>I find my work enivronment is very unusual. It&#8217;s a small internet software company, with a pretty even mix of males and females. Actually, it used to be prodominately female, but the company has been expanding lately and taking in more employees. The CTO is a man, but he doesn&#8217;t do any programming. His wife (and co-owner) is a genius programmer who went to college at the age of 14 and has so much work coming her way that she barely ever sleeps. She works 7 days a week. The second highest programmer is also female. The two new programmers are male, but still manage to be brilliant. ;) I&#8217;m in charge of the web design &#8220;department&#8221; which is me and my male intern. I don&#8217;t really think my company reflects the norm of the industry. I have also slowly moved from a specific interest in web design into a heady mix of programming. I will soon be returning to college for a Bachelors in Web Development or Information Technology.</p>
<p>Now to stop tooting my own horn, since someone already mentioned <a href="http://www.netdiver.net" rel="nofollow">netdiver</a>, here&#8217;s some more&#8230;</p>
<p>-Melanie Groux of <a href="http://www.brushstroke.tv" rel="nofollow">brushstroke.tv</a> is inspirational<br />
-Anna Dorfman of <a href="http://www.absolutely-vile.com/" rel="nofollow">absolutely vile</a> recently recoded her site in CSS.<br />
-<a href="http://www.sushiesque.com" rel="nofollow">Sushiesque.com</a> may be part template, but I&#8217;ve seen her previous work and know she knows all about great design.<br />
-Danica of <a href="http://applepear.org/" rel="nofollow">Applepear</a> does amazing things with CSS<br />
-<a href="http://jodyferry.com/" rel="nofollow">Jody Ferry</a> is a webdesigner with a CSS portfolio site<br />
-My friend, <a href="http://maybe.iotoeuropa.org/" rel="nofollow">Persephone</a>, does a good job coding her site in CSS and offering various CSS skins&#8230;<br />
-Lori at <a href="http://www.apparentlynothing.com/" rel="nofollow">Apparently Nothing</a> is great with minimalism<br />
-<a href="http://www.uglygreenchair.com/" rel="nofollow">The Ugly Green Chair</a> is clean and gorgeous</p>
<p>&#8230;and others that have already been named.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to keep my eyes open for more to add later.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-865</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2003 19:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;And I consider CSS and XHTML actually a nice way to marry beautiful layouts with practical, accessible websites.  :D&lt;/em&gt;

Great quote! I love it!

And, as I remember right, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boxesandarrows.com/people/staffbios.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;vast majority&lt;/a&gt; of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boxesandarrows.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Boxes and Arrows&lt;/a&gt; staff/editors are women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>And I consider CSS and XHTML actually a nice way to marry beautiful layouts with practical, accessible websites.  :D</em></p>
<p>Great quote! I love it!</p>
<p>And, as I remember right, the <a href="http://www.boxesandarrows.com/people/staffbios.php" rel="nofollow">vast majority</a> of the <a href="http://www.boxesandarrows.com/" rel="nofollow">Boxes and Arrows</a> staff/editors are women.</p>
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		<title>By: Lea</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-864</link>
		<dc:creator>Lea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2003 06:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.  Woman here.  I also do a lot of CSS and XHTML based design these days.  Most of the ones I&#039;ve done (so far) aren&#039;t live on the web yet (redesigns are a &lt;em&gt;bitch&lt;/em&gt;, eh?), and some I can&#039;t show here because they are internal websites for only the company and its dealers.  Some of them are transitional.  Some of them rely on no tables and just XHTML Strict and CSS design.  :D

Tho you can take a peek at &lt;a href=&quot;http://xox.lealea.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my weblog&lt;/a&gt; (tho it was coded a year ago, so mind some of the messiness).  I use CSS and XHTML 1.0 Trans on my sister&#039;s weblog: &lt;a href=&quot;http://ana.lealea.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ana.lealea.net/&lt;/a&gt;

And I&#039;ve seen a lot of women with blogs who prefer doing their designs through CSS and XHTML.  Funnily enough, I&#039;m more of the CSS fanatic than my boyfriend is, but I&#039;m slowly turning his head. ;-D  Results and facts speak for themselves.

P.S. I consider myself more of a &lt;em&gt;designer&lt;/em&gt; than a &quot;coder.&quot;  That&#039;s what my education was, anyway.  And I consider CSS and XHTML actually a nice way to marry beautiful layouts with practical, accessible websites.  :D

My brief portfolio site, unfortunately, is still done archaicly (it was hastily done during portfolio grad show and while I was finishing a hectic freelance project) without XHTML or well done CSS.  So please excuse!  *bows*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.  Woman here.  I also do a lot of CSS and XHTML based design these days.  Most of the ones I&#8217;ve done (so far) aren&#8217;t live on the web yet (redesigns are a <em>bitch</em>, eh?), and some I can&#8217;t show here because they are internal websites for only the company and its dealers.  Some of them are transitional.  Some of them rely on no tables and just XHTML Strict and CSS design.  :D</p>
<p>Tho you can take a peek at <a href="http://xox.lealea.net/" rel="nofollow">my weblog</a> (tho it was coded a year ago, so mind some of the messiness).  I use CSS and XHTML 1.0 Trans on my sister&#8217;s weblog: <a href="http://ana.lealea.net/" rel="nofollow">http://ana.lealea.net/</a></p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve seen a lot of women with blogs who prefer doing their designs through CSS and XHTML.  Funnily enough, I&#8217;m more of the CSS fanatic than my boyfriend is, but I&#8217;m slowly turning his head. ;-D  Results and facts speak for themselves.</p>
<p>P.S. I consider myself more of a <em>designer</em> than a &#8220;coder.&#8221;  That&#8217;s what my education was, anyway.  And I consider CSS and XHTML actually a nice way to marry beautiful layouts with practical, accessible websites.  :D</p>
<p>My brief portfolio site, unfortunately, is still done archaicly (it was hastily done during portfolio grad show and while I was finishing a hectic freelance project) without XHTML or well done CSS.  So please excuse!  *bows*</p>
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		<title>By: SenshiNeko</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-863</link>
		<dc:creator>SenshiNeko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2003 04:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, when you shrink the sample by thinking in terms of &quot;people who are known for designing and working with web standards&quot; and &quot;current field of standards-based web design&quot;, it seems you&#039;re only looking for professionals working for business and industry... yet many of the creative layouts and beautiful designs I&#039;ve seen online have been lovingly crafted by what you&#039;d probably consider &#039;amateurs&#039;: maybe high-school girls on their personal weblogs, or women making a site for some personal interest?  That&#039;s possibly where many of them are, putting their effort into the personal zone instead of the corporate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, when you shrink the sample by thinking in terms of &#8220;people who are known for designing and working with web standards&#8221; and &#8220;current field of standards-based web design&#8221;, it seems you&#8217;re only looking for professionals working for business and industry&#8230; yet many of the creative layouts and beautiful designs I&#8217;ve seen online have been lovingly crafted by what you&#8217;d probably consider &#8216;amateurs&#8217;: maybe high-school girls on their personal weblogs, or women making a site for some personal interest?  That&#8217;s possibly where many of them are, putting their effort into the personal zone instead of the corporate.</p>
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		<title>By: azure</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-862</link>
		<dc:creator>azure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2003 04:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, most of the women designers I&#039;ve noticed have already been mentioned. The only other one I can think of who regularly blows me away w/her designs is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lethalsporks.net/halo&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Retro Stockings&lt;/a&gt; she has thumbnails of previous designs that are just amazing, really.

Myself, I&#039;ve been using CSS for a few years now, but have only very recently become interested in standards-based designing. I actually have a separate blogroll devoted to design sites that either inform or inspire me. My designs are probably too &quot;frou-frou&quot; though, heh. I don&#039;t consider myself talented...yet! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, most of the women designers I&#8217;ve noticed have already been mentioned. The only other one I can think of who regularly blows me away w/her designs is <a href="http://www.lethalsporks.net/halo" rel="nofollow">Retro Stockings</a> she has thumbnails of previous designs that are just amazing, really.</p>
<p>Myself, I&#8217;ve been using CSS for a few years now, but have only very recently become interested in standards-based designing. I actually have a separate blogroll devoted to design sites that either inform or inspire me. My designs are probably too &#8220;frou-frou&#8221; though, heh. I don&#8217;t consider myself talented&#8230;yet! ;)</p>
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		<title>By: erin malone</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-861</link>
		<dc:creator>erin malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2003 01:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am female and built both my sites (erinmalone.com and emdezine.com/designwritingd) using CSS, attempting to be standards compliant. While Boxes and Arrows isn&#039;t built with CSS, it is run by women, myself (erin malone  - chief editor) and Christina Wodtke (publisher). There are many women out here, we just dont always let people know what our gender is because it should be irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am female and built both my sites (erinmalone.com and emdezine.com/designwritingd) using CSS, attempting to be standards compliant. While Boxes and Arrows isn&#8217;t built with CSS, it is run by women, myself (erin malone  &#8211; chief editor) and Christina Wodtke (publisher). There are many women out here, we just dont always let people know what our gender is because it should be irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: beto</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-860</link>
		<dc:creator>beto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2003 01:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only thing I&#039;ll say - we have two women in our web applications division. In fact, they &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; the web apps division. Two young, smart ladies just  almost out of college. I do work with them in a daily basis, and I must confess it is much easier than with men - at least to my easily burnable temper. It is the first time I work on a company where the male/female ratio goes up beyond the help desk, something I really like to live with. The less web development gets looked at like a &quot;guy&#039;s thing&quot;, the more great talent we can come to discover from the opposite sex and the less alien will the sex difference be - which can only be a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only thing I&#8217;ll say &#8211; we have two women in our web applications division. In fact, they <em>are</em> the web apps division. Two young, smart ladies just  almost out of college. I do work with them in a daily basis, and I must confess it is much easier than with men &#8211; at least to my easily burnable temper. It is the first time I work on a company where the male/female ratio goes up beyond the help desk, something I really like to live with. The less web development gets looked at like a &#8220;guy&#8217;s thing&#8221;, the more great talent we can come to discover from the opposite sex and the less alien will the sex difference be &#8211; which can only be a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin D. Devroe</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-859</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin D. Devroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2003 01:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone, create an OPML document, or sometype of list, of all these URLs.  That would be very useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone, create an OPML document, or sometype of list, of all these URLs.  That would be very useful.</p>
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		<title>By: andrea</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-858</link>
		<dc:creator>andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2003 23:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A shameless plug for my new site &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.doingfine.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;doingfine&lt;/a&gt;.

I work in academia and have been designing with web standards for several years now.  My main contribution to the community is training the next generation of web designers, and making sure they learn good habits right off the bat.  I train  a team of students in CSS, web standards, and accessibility techniques.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A shameless plug for my new site <a href="http://www.doingfine.org" rel="nofollow">doingfine</a>.</p>
<p>I work in academia and have been designing with web standards for several years now.  My main contribution to the community is training the next generation of web designers, and making sure they learn good habits right off the bat.  I train  a team of students in CSS, web standards, and accessibility techniques.</p>
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		<title>By: liza sabater</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-857</link>
		<dc:creator>liza sabater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2003 23:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am shocked that nobody has mentioned Jen from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pixeldecor.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PIXELDECOR&lt;/a&gt;. Her sites totally rock.

i am also of the cult of ScriptyGoddess and Kaydeellebee.

i want to add &lt;a title=&quot;[the girlie matters] tips and tricks&quot; href=&quot;http://www.thegirliematters.com/tips/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;[the girlie matters]&lt;/a&gt; because even though her site does not come across as visually design-y, her tech expertise puts her on a whole &#039;nother level of the blogosphere.

i&#039;ve come to standards design late in the game. i a writer who turned to DTP and eventually to web design as a way to complement my primary job. i&#039;ve been producing personal and net art sites part-time since 1997: photoshop was 1.0 and when DW came out, we bought it for less than a hundred bucks. of course, i thought it was the best thing since sliced bread because as someone coming out of desk top publishing, DW made sense. until, that is, i started developing commercial sites. i created a site for a museum project that took me to the brink of insanity.

that&#039;s why blogging has made me a true believer. i really think that CMS technology is the biggest innovation on the web since Mosaic and the more ubiquitous blogs become (what with Typepad, for example) the more standards site we&#039;ll see out there.

that said, i have three sites:

&lt;a&gt;culturekitchen&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a&gt;typepadistas&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a&gt;blogundanga&lt;/a&gt;

i have am a web standards evangelizer of sorts  for the TypePad community through TypePadistas. in my search for TP sites of note, i have found many beautiful blogs designed by women that i am sure, just like me, have never thought of themselves as web designers.

on a last note: doesn&#039;t anybody think of Mena Trott as a web designer? Her sites are truly beautiful and am sure she is reponsible in more ways than one for the blog &#039;aesthetic&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am shocked that nobody has mentioned Jen from <a href="http://www.pixeldecor.com" rel="nofollow">PIXELDECOR</a>. Her sites totally rock.</p>
<p>i am also of the cult of ScriptyGoddess and Kaydeellebee.</p>
<p>i want to add <a title="[the girlie matters] tips and tricks" href="http://www.thegirliematters.com/tips/" rel="nofollow">[the girlie matters]</a> because even though her site does not come across as visually design-y, her tech expertise puts her on a whole &#8216;nother level of the blogosphere.</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve come to standards design late in the game. i a writer who turned to DTP and eventually to web design as a way to complement my primary job. i&#8217;ve been producing personal and net art sites part-time since 1997: photoshop was 1.0 and when DW came out, we bought it for less than a hundred bucks. of course, i thought it was the best thing since sliced bread because as someone coming out of desk top publishing, DW made sense. until, that is, i started developing commercial sites. i created a site for a museum project that took me to the brink of insanity.</p>
<p>that&#8217;s why blogging has made me a true believer. i really think that CMS technology is the biggest innovation on the web since Mosaic and the more ubiquitous blogs become (what with Typepad, for example) the more standards site we&#8217;ll see out there.</p>
<p>that said, i have three sites:</p>
<p><a>culturekitchen</a><br />
<a>typepadistas</a><br />
<a>blogundanga</a></p>
<p>i have am a web standards evangelizer of sorts  for the TypePad community through TypePadistas. in my search for TP sites of note, i have found many beautiful blogs designed by women that i am sure, just like me, have never thought of themselves as web designers.</p>
<p>on a last note: doesn&#8217;t anybody think of Mena Trott as a web designer? Her sites are truly beautiful and am sure she is reponsible in more ways than one for the blog &#8216;aesthetic&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: ceejayoz</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-856</link>
		<dc:creator>ceejayoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2003 22:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, now we know of a lot more female web designers... :-)

I think part of the problem is the reaction females generally get online.  I&#039;ve seen people get mobbed with posts like &quot;omg show me the b00biez&quot; when it&#039;s mentioned that they&#039;re a woman - I&#039;d imagine that&#039;s off-putting.

(Slashdot&#039;s a good place to see that kind of thing)

For them, it&#039;s probably easier to just let everyone think you&#039;re a guy and be judged based on your work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, now we know of a lot more female web designers&#8230; :-)</p>
<p>I think part of the problem is the reaction females generally get online.  I&#8217;ve seen people get mobbed with posts like &#8220;omg show me the b00biez&#8221; when it&#8217;s mentioned that they&#8217;re a woman &#8211; I&#8217;d imagine that&#8217;s off-putting.</p>
<p>(Slashdot&#8217;s a good place to see that kind of thing)</p>
<p>For them, it&#8217;s probably easier to just let everyone think you&#8217;re a guy and be judged based on your work.</p>
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		<title>By: GC</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator>GC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2003 22:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to add the girls of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogmoxie.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blogmoxie&lt;/a&gt; to the list, as well as Erika, of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snazzykat.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Snazzykat&lt;/a&gt; and Jennifer of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theworkingmom.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Working Mom&lt;/a&gt;.  I find their designs awe-inspiring and only wish I could have even half their talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to add the girls of <a href="http://www.blogmoxie.com" rel="nofollow">Blogmoxie</a> to the list, as well as Erika, of <a href="http://www.snazzykat.com" rel="nofollow">Snazzykat</a> and Jennifer of <a href="http://www.theworkingmom.net" rel="nofollow">The Working Mom</a>.  I find their designs awe-inspiring and only wish I could have even half their talent.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilly Tao (aka girlhacker)</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-854</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilly Tao (aka girlhacker)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2003 22:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to put a plug in for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.misbehaving.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;misbehaving.net&lt;/a&gt; a weblog about women and technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to put a plug in for <a href="http://www.misbehaving.net/" rel="nofollow">misbehaving.net</a> a weblog about women and technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-853</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2003 21:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dooce.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dooce!!!!!&lt;/a&gt;

Funniest writer (and person) on the web, hands down!  Heather&#039;s life and background is so interesting, it would be worthwhile for someone not familiar with her to read her blog archives from the beginning one weekend :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.dooce.com/" rel="nofollow">Dooce!!!!!</a></p>
<p>Funniest writer (and person) on the web, hands down!  Heather&#8217;s life and background is so interesting, it would be worthwhile for someone not familiar with her to read her blog archives from the beginning one weekend :)</p>
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		<title>By: Egor Kloos</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-852</link>
		<dc:creator>Egor Kloos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, I&#039;ve already been reading some of the sites mentioned here and I never seemed to have made the point of remembering that these sites are made by women. I mean it&#039;s not the first thing that comes to mind, the quality of the content and or the look and feel of a site is what makes me come back. Like Doug already mentioned individually gender doesn&#039;t necessarily matter when it comes to skill and ability and when a blog covers design and webstandards the gender issue is then often mute.

But some of the best work that has come out of the teams that I&#039;ve worked with has been those teams that had both men and women working together. All male teams seemed to me to be just that little bit more boring and uncreative. Remembering this made me think that maybe I should be more aware about the person behind the blog, it can&#039;t hurt. If my daily reads are more balanced my day may become just that little bit more fun and creative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I&#8217;ve already been reading some of the sites mentioned here and I never seemed to have made the point of remembering that these sites are made by women. I mean it&#8217;s not the first thing that comes to mind, the quality of the content and or the look and feel of a site is what makes me come back. Like Doug already mentioned individually gender doesn&#8217;t necessarily matter when it comes to skill and ability and when a blog covers design and webstandards the gender issue is then often mute.</p>
<p>But some of the best work that has come out of the teams that I&#8217;ve worked with has been those teams that had both men and women working together. All male teams seemed to me to be just that little bit more boring and uncreative. Remembering this made me think that maybe I should be more aware about the person behind the blog, it can&#8217;t hurt. If my daily reads are more balanced my day may become just that little bit more fun and creative.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-851</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2003 18:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To answer &lt;a href=&quot;#comment26&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Steph&#039;s question&lt;/a&gt;, since it&#039;s hanging out there, I&#039;ll respond as if this is an extension of the original entry.

Of course gender never matters when evaluating a designer&#039;s skill set -- a designer can stand on the merits of talent, craftsmanship, and creativity alone, without sex, race, nationality, religion or any other extraneous factors needing to come into play. This entry was/is not intended to be a rally cry to women, nor anything about equal rights or adequate representation. It stems more from curiosity and personal interest.

I noted that many creative influences in my personal life have been women. They&#039;ve added a balance to my view and understanding of design that I just feel I&#039;m missing right now. So I&#039;m simply curious to find more of them who share an interest and are doing what I currently do.

When asked for references to standards-aware designers and the sites they&#039;ve designed, I found it odd that 90% of those I could think of were male-driven. It didn&#039;t seem to be an accurate picture of my industry. Maybe it&#039;s just me, and I&#039;ve probably been looking in all the wrong places. I, personally, would like to be more aware of women designers who are doing similar things. That&#039;s it. That&#039;s where I thought others could help.

I&#039;m tremendously appreciative of the referrals made so far --  it&#039;s opening my eyes to some designers and sites I may never have found otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer <a href="#comment26" rel="nofollow">Steph&#8217;s question</a>, since it&#8217;s hanging out there, I&#8217;ll respond as if this is an extension of the original entry.</p>
<p>Of course gender never matters when evaluating a designer&#8217;s skill set &#8212; a designer can stand on the merits of talent, craftsmanship, and creativity alone, without sex, race, nationality, religion or any other extraneous factors needing to come into play. This entry was/is not intended to be a rally cry to women, nor anything about equal rights or adequate representation. It stems more from curiosity and personal interest.</p>
<p>I noted that many creative influences in my personal life have been women. They&#8217;ve added a balance to my view and understanding of design that I just feel I&#8217;m missing right now. So I&#8217;m simply curious to find more of them who share an interest and are doing what I currently do.</p>
<p>When asked for references to standards-aware designers and the sites they&#8217;ve designed, I found it odd that 90% of those I could think of were male-driven. It didn&#8217;t seem to be an accurate picture of my industry. Maybe it&#8217;s just me, and I&#8217;ve probably been looking in all the wrong places. I, personally, would like to be more aware of women designers who are doing similar things. That&#8217;s it. That&#8217;s where I thought others could help.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m tremendously appreciative of the referrals made so far &#8212;  it&#8217;s opening my eyes to some designers and sites I may never have found otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Erikah</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/05/women.html#comment-850</link>
		<dc:creator>Erikah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://caoine.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Emma&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s going to think I&#039;m stalking her since I just nominated her for a blog award at another site, but she&#039;s a great designer too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://caoine.org/" rel="nofollow">Emma</a>&#8216;s going to think I&#8217;m stalking her since I just nominated her for a blog award at another site, but she&#8217;s a great designer too.</p>
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