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		<title>By: jerry</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment-898</link>
		<dc:creator>jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2003 02:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HPs strategy is to &quot;inspire people to see the picture in everything&quot; and it showcases the work of amateur photographers. To engage consumers, HP has launched a photo gallery blog called &quot;YOUstories,&quot; designed to encourage people to post their own stories and pictures. The blog photos feature subjects ranging from tennis shoes, to pet pugs, to a bright orange vintage BMW. Many are out of focus or use unconventional framing techniques, with the message clearly being that nothing is too insignificant to be captured on a digital camera.

http://www.internetnews.com/IAR/article.php/3086541</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HPs strategy is to &#8220;inspire people to see the picture in everything&#8221; and it showcases the work of amateur photographers. To engage consumers, HP has launched a photo gallery blog called &#8220;YOUstories,&#8221; designed to encourage people to post their own stories and pictures. The blog photos feature subjects ranging from tennis shoes, to pet pugs, to a bright orange vintage BMW. Many are out of focus or use unconventional framing techniques, with the message clearly being that nothing is too insignificant to be captured on a digital camera.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.internetnews.com/IAR/article.php/3086541" rel="nofollow">http://www.internetnews.com/IAR/article.php/3086541</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Heraghty</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment-897</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Heraghty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If nothing else, at least this will push the meme/word &quot;blog&quot; more into the public consciousness...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If nothing else, at least this will push the meme/word &#8220;blog&#8221; more into the public consciousness&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment-896</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Compaq and HP lines still are different when it comes to the laptop lines. They don&#039;t share similar components, well atleast not from the designs I&#039;ve seen. The HP line is generally a little nicer in quality for the home machines.

All I&#039;ve heard about Compaq is terrible reports, until you get to some of their upper end servers. Then they actually become somewhat less sucky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Compaq and HP lines still are different when it comes to the laptop lines. They don&#8217;t share similar components, well atleast not from the designs I&#8217;ve seen. The HP line is generally a little nicer in quality for the home machines.</p>
<p>All I&#8217;ve heard about Compaq is terrible reports, until you get to some of their upper end servers. Then they actually become somewhat less sucky.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Douglas</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment-895</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2003 00:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you&#039;ve found good help with your HP, but I&#039;m surprised.

Our college runs rampant with broken Compaq laptops. The most common defect is the poorly designed headphone jack. It easily breaks, disabling the speakers and making headphones go mono (I&#039;ve learned the reasons for this, but they&#039;re too dull to mention here.) When this happens, the tech shop has to replace the system board. It&#039;s the problem that took me to the shop over and over last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;ve found good help with your HP, but I&#8217;m surprised.</p>
<p>Our college runs rampant with broken Compaq laptops. The most common defect is the poorly designed headphone jack. It easily breaks, disabling the speakers and making headphones go mono (I&#8217;ve learned the reasons for this, but they&#8217;re too dull to mention here.) When this happens, the tech shop has to replace the system board. It&#8217;s the problem that took me to the shop over and over last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment-894</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I blog, I own an HP, and I&#039;m def. technically literate. The HP I bought was in my price range, was rated better than a Dell that costed $200 more, and had the same features. Their supports actually been suprisingly good, try getting Dell to replace a hard drive, no questions asked after five minutes on hold.

Suprisingly, most of my friends who own HP laptops have had similar experiences. HP/Compaq desktops are normally a nightmare. We won&#039;t go there.

As to the campaign, its obviously effective. We&#039;re here talking about it. It actually targets its audience pretty well. See, its not really aimed at US, its aimed at the kids and parents who are starting to blog. Who don&#039;t build their own PCs (plenty of them) who can&#039;t afford a mac (plenty of them) or even the teenager who uses a livejournal. Yes, thats a blog. Most of them might even recognize the term.

It reminds me of one of Mazda&#039;s newer ad campaigns. Beautiful clean ads of their new cars (MP3, RX-8) and within a day or two...they were ALL graffetied. Who did it? They did. Drew traffic to their own enthusiast site. Very effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blog, I own an HP, and I&#8217;m def. technically literate. The HP I bought was in my price range, was rated better than a Dell that costed $200 more, and had the same features. Their supports actually been suprisingly good, try getting Dell to replace a hard drive, no questions asked after five minutes on hold.</p>
<p>Suprisingly, most of my friends who own HP laptops have had similar experiences. HP/Compaq desktops are normally a nightmare. We won&#8217;t go there.</p>
<p>As to the campaign, its obviously effective. We&#8217;re here talking about it. It actually targets its audience pretty well. See, its not really aimed at US, its aimed at the kids and parents who are starting to blog. Who don&#8217;t build their own PCs (plenty of them) who can&#8217;t afford a mac (plenty of them) or even the teenager who uses a livejournal. Yes, thats a blog. Most of them might even recognize the term.</p>
<p>It reminds me of one of Mazda&#8217;s newer ad campaigns. Beautiful clean ads of their new cars (MP3, RX-8) and within a day or two&#8230;they were ALL graffetied. Who did it? They did. Drew traffic to their own enthusiast site. Very effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Douglas</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment-893</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, shortening slogans to tiny statements/phrases is part of &lt;a href=&quot;http://lovemarks.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;branding&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, shortening slogans to tiny statements/phrases is part of <a href="http://lovemarks.com" rel="nofollow">branding</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Douglas</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment-892</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I blog on the crappy Compaq laptops that our college hands out. I&#039;d be thankful for the free computer, except that I paid for it in my tuition. I had to fix it (thank God the college covers that) &lt;strong&gt;five times&lt;/strong&gt; in a year and a half.

I wish they&#039;d switch to Dell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blog on the crappy Compaq laptops that our college hands out. I&#8217;d be thankful for the free computer, except that I paid for it in my tuition. I had to fix it (thank God the college covers that) <strong>five times</strong> in a year and a half.</p>
<p>I wish they&#8217;d switch to Dell.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment-891</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhhh, it&#039;s lame.
HPs and Compaqs, all those BS propritary systems are geared towards teh AOL crowd, most of which, in my expierience, have no idea what a blog is still.

I was just at a little get together here in Boston sporting my &quot;I&#039;m Blogging This&quot; t-shirt and had 5 or 6 (I was drinking a lot of booze that night) people ask me what &quot;blogging&quot; was, or exclaim &quot;hey, I just found out what a blog was this afternoon....&quot;

Screw HP  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhhh, it&#8217;s lame.<br />
HPs and Compaqs, all those BS propritary systems are geared towards teh AOL crowd, most of which, in my expierience, have no idea what a blog is still.</p>
<p>I was just at a little get together here in Boston sporting my &#8220;I&#8217;m Blogging This&#8221; t-shirt and had 5 or 6 (I was drinking a lot of booze that night) people ask me what &#8220;blogging&#8221; was, or exclaim &#8220;hey, I just found out what a blog was this afternoon&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Screw HP  ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer Winters</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment-890</link>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2003 05:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment5&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;skateboarding parallel&lt;/a&gt;. One problem: skateboarders don&#039;t really say &quot;go big,&quot; that&#039;s only in the xgames.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the <a href="http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment5" rel="nofollow">skateboarding parallel</a>. One problem: skateboarders don&#8217;t really say &#8220;go big,&#8221; that&#8217;s only in the xgames.</p>
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		<title>By: Mahangu</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment-889</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahangu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2003 03:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These ads are just inclinations that the big guys are starting to take it seriously. Then again, is that a good thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These ads are just inclinations that the big guys are starting to take it seriously. Then again, is that a good thing?</p>
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		<title>By: RMCox</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment-888</link>
		<dc:creator>RMCox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 22:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like the ad worked exactly as planned. I mean, it&#039;s listed here and all, generating comments which will most likely generate comments on other blogs and so on. If the HP advertisers have any experience with blogging, they have to know about its cycles -- its power. On any given day I can browse to extremely popular blogs and more often than not there will be two or three common stories/links/products found on every single one. And this isn&#039;t some text ad when it gets picked up on a blog, it&#039;s content, it&#039;s engaged discussion about whatever the story/link/product is.

Now, do I think that the HP ad people stuck a billboard out there knowing that at some point a picture of it would be snapped and placed on a blog -- that the physical analogue would so easily transcend into the digital? I certainly think it&#039;s possible... I mean, bloggers are an appealing market. Not only are they probably more likely to be early adapters, but they also spread word of mouth on a grand scale.  However, marketing to the blogger presents a specific set of challenges; the most difficult to overcome would be the inherent cynical/critical nature of blogging.

There have been marketing campaigns that attempted to break into the blogging world, where the product was the focus of the blog, but those failed because they were so obviously, pitifully contrived. Unlike &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pvrblog.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a fan-driven product blog&lt;/a&gt;, these blogs were too product oriented, too transparent and too unproven; some new milk product cannot support consistent quality conversation. Mostly they were panned by bloggers and a few bloggers even &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20030313.wpitc313/BNStory/Technology&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;called for an all-out boycott&lt;/a&gt;. But that&#039;s the thing, the dissatisfaction was spread instantly in several hundred blogs where people were investigating the product, culling links and notes -- it was all negative, but it was also beautifully interactive.

Sure, their experiment had failed, but the real lesson was watching the dissemination of information across the web in blog after blog. The value is there, in getting linked to and talked about on blogs, but the active approach, when seen by the cynical/critical blogger, instantly loses any web-cred. The passive approach, however, if the campaign is clever enough will get picked up bloggers, it will get talked about and that could be exactly what HP is attempting with this ad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the ad worked exactly as planned. I mean, it&#8217;s listed here and all, generating comments which will most likely generate comments on other blogs and so on. If the HP advertisers have any experience with blogging, they have to know about its cycles &#8212; its power. On any given day I can browse to extremely popular blogs and more often than not there will be two or three common stories/links/products found on every single one. And this isn&#8217;t some text ad when it gets picked up on a blog, it&#8217;s content, it&#8217;s engaged discussion about whatever the story/link/product is.</p>
<p>Now, do I think that the HP ad people stuck a billboard out there knowing that at some point a picture of it would be snapped and placed on a blog &#8212; that the physical analogue would so easily transcend into the digital? I certainly think it&#8217;s possible&#8230; I mean, bloggers are an appealing market. Not only are they probably more likely to be early adapters, but they also spread word of mouth on a grand scale.  However, marketing to the blogger presents a specific set of challenges; the most difficult to overcome would be the inherent cynical/critical nature of blogging.</p>
<p>There have been marketing campaigns that attempted to break into the blogging world, where the product was the focus of the blog, but those failed because they were so obviously, pitifully contrived. Unlike <a href="http://www.pvrblog.com/" rel="nofollow">a fan-driven product blog</a>, these blogs were too product oriented, too transparent and too unproven; some new milk product cannot support consistent quality conversation. Mostly they were panned by bloggers and a few bloggers even <a href="http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20030313.wpitc313/BNStory/Technology" rel="nofollow">called for an all-out boycott</a>. But that&#8217;s the thing, the dissatisfaction was spread instantly in several hundred blogs where people were investigating the product, culling links and notes &#8212; it was all negative, but it was also beautifully interactive.</p>
<p>Sure, their experiment had failed, but the real lesson was watching the dissemination of information across the web in blog after blog. The value is there, in getting linked to and talked about on blogs, but the active approach, when seen by the cynical/critical blogger, instantly loses any web-cred. The passive approach, however, if the campaign is clever enough will get picked up bloggers, it will get talked about and that could be exactly what HP is attempting with this ad.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment-887</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 22:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it funny that people are kind of bashing a blog ad on a blog ;) Or is it ironic...or irrelevant...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it funny that people are kind of bashing a blog ad on a blog ;) Or is it ironic&#8230;or irrelevant&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: monkeyinabox</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment-886</link>
		<dc:creator>monkeyinabox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 21:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a better slogan would be, &quot;You surf  porn, don&#039;t you?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a better slogan would be, &#8220;You surf  porn, don&#8217;t you?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Harald</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment-885</link>
		<dc:creator>Harald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 20:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t blog on an HP, I blog on a Compaq. :-)</description>
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		<title>By: omit</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment-884</link>
		<dc:creator>omit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 17:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Motel Chronicles blog uses all caps (YOU USE ALL CAPS, DON&#039;T YOU?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Motel Chronicles blog uses all caps (YOU USE ALL CAPS, DON&#8217;T YOU?).</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Vitiello</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment-883</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Vitiello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You jump off bridges, don&#039;t you?</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment-882</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It reminds be of a campaign they had in the UK for the Independent newspaper when it first got published which said &#039;It is, are you?&#039; It&#039;s very clever cos if you get it you feel very smug and buy it, and if you don&#039;t after someone explains it to you, you realise it must be quite cool and buy it anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It reminds be of a campaign they had in the UK for the Independent newspaper when it first got published which said &#8216;It is, are you?&#8217; It&#8217;s very clever cos if you get it you feel very smug and buy it, and if you don&#8217;t after someone explains it to you, you realise it must be quite cool and buy it anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: pid</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment-881</link>
		<dc:creator>pid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to Steph&#039;s comment...

I&#039;m also in London, so I&#039;m just guessing, but each ad *could* be set to target an individual sub-segment/slice/whatever of their target market.

you just got hit hard by one you respond to particularly well.

course HP could just be late onto the bandwagon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to Steph&#8217;s comment&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also in London, so I&#8217;m just guessing, but each ad *could* be set to target an individual sub-segment/slice/whatever of their target market.</p>
<p>you just got hit hard by one you respond to particularly well.</p>
<p>course HP could just be late onto the bandwagon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2003/12/08/youblog.html#comment-880</link>
		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s clever because as well as the above-the-line campaign, a fair number of bloggers will notice and comment on the campaign, and thus generate some hefty, intelligent below-the-line coverage not unlike viral marketing. So even someone who like me who lives in London, UK and has no exposure to the ads gets the message about the hip HP brand through free coverage on blogs like this one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s clever because as well as the above-the-line campaign, a fair number of bloggers will notice and comment on the campaign, and thus generate some hefty, intelligent below-the-line coverage not unlike viral marketing. So even someone who like me who lives in London, UK and has no exposure to the ads gets the message about the hip HP brand through free coverage on blogs like this one!</p>
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		<title>By: Scrivs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrivs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 03:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even for the people who don&#039;t blog, I bet more than one will go home and look up what &quot;blog&quot; means on Google. I think it is brilliant.</description>
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