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		<title>By: Simon Pritchard</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2382</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Pritchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt mentioned that British Telecom have there &quot;talons&#039; firmly wrapped around the countries... erm, scrotem I believe was the term he used, in terms of un-metered broadband over 512kbps

Matt, DON&#039;T COME TO NEW ZEALAND! I did and here you&#039;re lucky if you can get un-metered broadband PERIOD! (And according to Telecom NZ broadband is anything over  128Kbps)

&lt;strong&gt;Example:&lt;/strong&gt;
&#160;&#160;&lt;em /&gt;Package: Jetstream Home
&#160;&#160;&lt;em /&gt;Speed: 512Kbps (ADSL)
&#160;&#160;&lt;em /&gt;Bandwidth Limit: 500Mb per Month (No I&#039;m not kidding!)
&#160;&#160;&lt;em /&gt;Price: NZ$59 (US$40)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt mentioned that British Telecom have there &#8220;talons&#8217; firmly wrapped around the countries&#8230; erm, scrotem I believe was the term he used, in terms of un-metered broadband over 512kbps</p>
<p>Matt, DON&#8217;T COME TO NEW ZEALAND! I did and here you&#8217;re lucky if you can get un-metered broadband PERIOD! (And according to Telecom NZ broadband is anything over  128Kbps)</p>
<p><strong>Example:</strong><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;<em />Package: Jetstream Home<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;<em />Speed: 512Kbps (ADSL)<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;<em />Bandwidth Limit: 500Mb per Month (No I&#8217;m not kidding!)<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;<em />Price: NZ$59 (US$40)</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2381</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2004 14:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Free Wi-Fi in Haymarket? Damn, and I was just there for two weeks.

I do agree, compared to the US and Europe, the wi-fi scene here sucks. Very few (if any) free hotspots, and the others are a tad too expensive.

If you do need to use the Telstra hotspots, consider getting a PhoneAway card. Saves paying the minimum fee of $5, and it&#039;s just a flat 20 cents a minute.

It&#039;s a pity there isn&#039;t much competition. Optus have given up, and I can&#039;t see Azure or Xone doing much. Telstra are expanding though, but I&#039;d like to see the price drop at least 50%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free Wi-Fi in Haymarket? Damn, and I was just there for two weeks.</p>
<p>I do agree, compared to the US and Europe, the wi-fi scene here sucks. Very few (if any) free hotspots, and the others are a tad too expensive.</p>
<p>If you do need to use the Telstra hotspots, consider getting a PhoneAway card. Saves paying the minimum fee of $5, and it&#8217;s just a flat 20 cents a minute.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pity there isn&#8217;t much competition. Optus have given up, and I can&#8217;t see Azure or Xone doing much. Telstra are expanding though, but I&#8217;d like to see the price drop at least 50%.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2380</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to Sydney, how embarrassing, you would think WIFI would be more widely available here considering the scope of the place (2000 Olympics, WE04, etc). Sadly however we have a communications giant running the show and he hates to  share air space. To sum it up we pay large amounts of money for small amounts of service, but that works for the man...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Sydney, how embarrassing, you would think WIFI would be more widely available here considering the scope of the place (2000 Olympics, WE04, etc). Sadly however we have a communications giant running the show and he hates to  share air space. To sum it up we pay large amounts of money for small amounts of service, but that works for the man&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Farrugia</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2379</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Farrugia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try Darling Park on Sussex St. Thats the identical Nestle &amp; IBM buildings next to Pyrmont Bridge (the one which the monorail uses to cross Darling Harbour)

Both these buildings have wifi in the foyer.

Good Luck!! Enjoy Sydney!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try Darling Park on Sussex St. Thats the identical Nestle &#038; IBM buildings next to Pyrmont Bridge (the one which the monorail uses to cross Darling Harbour)</p>
<p>Both these buildings have wifi in the foyer.</p>
<p>Good Luck!! Enjoy Sydney!</p>
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		<title>By: Lach</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2378</link>
		<dc:creator>Lach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunny: &quot;Yeah this may be a shock to you but in Australia we pay for bandwith per gigabyte.&quot;

By the gigabyte? If you&#039;re lucky. It&#039;s strictly by the megabyte for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny: &#8220;Yeah this may be a shock to you but in Australia we pay for bandwith per gigabyte.&#8221;</p>
<p>By the gigabyte? If you&#8217;re lucky. It&#8217;s strictly by the megabyte for me.</p>
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		<title>By: timfm</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2377</link>
		<dc:creator>timfm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug -- contact Jeremy or Daniel at segpub.net. They&#039;re sure to know of some wifi hotspots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug &#8212; contact Jeremy or Daniel at segpub.net. They&#8217;re sure to know of some wifi hotspots.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Tucker</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2376</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Tucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here&#039;s yet another wifi hotspot list, courtesy of a quick Google...

http://www.wi-fihotspotlist.com/browse/au/1900002/1901111/

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here&#8217;s yet another wifi hotspot list, courtesy of a quick Google&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wi-fihotspotlist.com/browse/au/1900002/1901111/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wi-fihotspotlist.com/browse/au/1900002/1901111/</a></p>
<p>;)</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rutter</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2375</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Rutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Multimap has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&amp;localinfosel=true&amp;X=16832500&amp;Y=-3987500.95825662&amp;scale=100000&amp;width=700&amp;height=400&amp;gride=16832455&amp;gridn=-3987411.95825662&amp;place=&amp;pc=&amp;coordsys=mercator&amp;db=AU&amp;local=wifi&amp;kw=Wifi+Hotspots&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wifi Hotspots finder&lt;/a&gt; and it seems there are plenty in Sydney.

I was really hoping to get out to WE04 but I couldn&#039;t persuade work to stump up the cash for a flight from the UK (even though we have an office in Syndey). Oh well - hope it goes well - I&#039;m looking forward to the feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Multimap has a <a href="http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&#038;localinfosel=true&#038;X=16832500&#038;Y=-3987500.95825662&#038;scale=100000&#038;width=700&#038;height=400&#038;gride=16832455&#038;gridn=-3987411.95825662&#038;place=&#038;pc=&#038;coordsys=mercator&#038;db=AU&#038;local=wifi&#038;kw=Wifi+Hotspots" rel="nofollow">Wifi Hotspots finder</a> and it seems there are plenty in Sydney.</p>
<p>I was really hoping to get out to WE04 but I couldn&#8217;t persuade work to stump up the cash for a flight from the UK (even though we have an office in Syndey). Oh well &#8211; hope it goes well &#8211; I&#8217;m looking forward to the feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2374</link>
		<dc:creator>Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to repeat what most of the other sydneysiders have to say, wireless is pretty poor at the moment in Sydney. What&#039;s worse is that Haymarket probably has the best coverage in Sydney which kind of shows just how bad the rest of sydney is.

UTS has reasonable coverage if you can get access to it. As other people have mentioned, a fair few of the food courts around chinatown have access. I&#039;m always partial to the Sussex Centre FC which has azure wireless with pre paid cards available in one of the shops downstairs, but then I go there for the food rather than the net access so I don&#039;t know how good it is.

Unwired would be a great option if it was available for short term access as it has coverage of lots of sydney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to repeat what most of the other sydneysiders have to say, wireless is pretty poor at the moment in Sydney. What&#8217;s worse is that Haymarket probably has the best coverage in Sydney which kind of shows just how bad the rest of sydney is.</p>
<p>UTS has reasonable coverage if you can get access to it. As other people have mentioned, a fair few of the food courts around chinatown have access. I&#8217;m always partial to the Sussex Centre FC which has azure wireless with pre paid cards available in one of the shops downstairs, but then I go there for the food rather than the net access so I don&#8217;t know how good it is.</p>
<p>Unwired would be a great option if it was available for short term access as it has coverage of lots of sydney.</p>
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		<title>By: daimon</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2373</link>
		<dc:creator>daimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 06:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am a sydney resident. and sadly, wifi isnt anywhere as nearly developed as it is in usa or other countries. with that said, we do have some places. and since u said u were in china town, if you go to the dixon st food court, there is optus wireless there. so you can have some noodles and surf the web/check ur mail etc. you will though need to buy a optus wireless account thing. so go to the optus shop in china town and get that and then go to the food court. if you want good noodles, get them from happy chef in dixon food court. there really nice. i recommend, chicken wonton soup with rice stick noodles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am a sydney resident. and sadly, wifi isnt anywhere as nearly developed as it is in usa or other countries. with that said, we do have some places. and since u said u were in china town, if you go to the dixon st food court, there is optus wireless there. so you can have some noodles and surf the web/check ur mail etc. you will though need to buy a optus wireless account thing. so go to the optus shop in china town and get that and then go to the food court. if you want good noodles, get them from happy chef in dixon food court. there really nice. i recommend, chicken wonton soup with rice stick noodles.</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2372</link>
		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 03:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Ismail:  My sister was writing a travel guide and had to communicate with her editors on a regular basis to send them copy-- internet access was necessary.  (She did have several days with an entire national park to herself.  You&#039;ve gotta love WA for that...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Ismail:  My sister was writing a travel guide and had to communicate with her editors on a regular basis to send them copy&#8211; internet access was necessary.  (She did have several days with an entire national park to herself.  You&#8217;ve gotta love WA for that&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hill</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2371</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 01:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wireless at my place, party down

welcome to sydney, did you see the golden tree thing at chinatown? check out ippon sushi if you get a chance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wireless at my place, party down</p>
<p>welcome to sydney, did you see the golden tree thing at chinatown? check out ippon sushi if you get a chance</p>
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		<title>By: ismael</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2370</link>
		<dc:creator>ismael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what a tragedy! Probably she had to spend that extra time on those awful beaches, in the OPEN AIR!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a tragedy! Probably she had to spend that extra time on those awful beaches, in the OPEN AIR!!</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2369</link>
		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sister just got back from eight weeks in Western Australia, and she never succeeded in finding wireless anywhere, not even in the middle of Perth.  And when she asked about it, people looked at her like she was crazy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sister just got back from eight weeks in Western Australia, and she never succeeded in finding wireless anywhere, not even in the middle of Perth.  And when she asked about it, people looked at her like she was crazy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2368</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 12:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, had no idea that wi-fi was not widely available in Sydney. I live in Adelaide and just going down to the CBD (city center) means instant wi-fi.

I would recommend the libraries maybe. Again this is just from my experience in Adelaide.

Yeah this may be a shock to you but in Australia we pay for bandwith per gigabyte.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, had no idea that wi-fi was not widely available in Sydney. I live in Adelaide and just going down to the CBD (city center) means instant wi-fi.</p>
<p>I would recommend the libraries maybe. Again this is just from my experience in Adelaide.</p>
<p>Yeah this may be a shock to you but in Australia we pay for bandwith per gigabyte.</p>
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		<title>By: Amit Karmakar</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2367</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit Karmakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other option of course would be to get a wireless plan with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.unwired.com.au&quot; title=&quot;Get unwired&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;unwired. Try it all you want for a month and then give it to someone who will use it before you leave :)&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other option of course would be to get a wireless plan with <a href="http://www.unwired.com.au" title="Get unwired" rel="nofollow">unwired. Try it all you want for a month and then give it to someone who will use it before you leave :)</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt Wilcox</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2366</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Wilcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One day Britain too shall discover the joys of WiFi, and perhaps even un-metered broadband faster than 512kbps.

In terms of communication access British Telecom holds this countrys scrotum in it&#039;s iron like talons. *big frown*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One day Britain too shall discover the joys of WiFi, and perhaps even un-metered broadband faster than 512kbps.</p>
<p>In terms of communication access British Telecom holds this countrys scrotum in it&#8217;s iron like talons. *big frown*</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Moulton</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2365</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Moulton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go to http://www.whereis.com.au and select Wi-Fi for wireless spots around Sydney (and Melbourne for that matter).  It&#039;s a pretty handy site for tourists!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go to <a href="http://www.whereis.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.whereis.com.au</a> and select Wi-Fi for wireless spots around Sydney (and Melbourne for that matter).  It&#8217;s a pretty handy site for tourists!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sander</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2364</link>
		<dc:creator>Sander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 08:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Internet cafes where you can &#039;relatively cheaply&#039; (_very_ relatively) plug in your laptop (as stupidly most internet cafes don&#039;t allow this) would be ... uhm, I forgot their names, but one is on Broadway (slightly west of Railway Square), half a block before Glebe Point Road ($3/hr, $10 unlimited, $4 unlimited (3 hours) after 20:30), and another one is on the south side of the railway station (sorry, forgot the name of the street) - it&#039;s on a corner iirc - walk parallel to the rails on the first major street and you should come across it - $2.50/hr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Internet cafes where you can &#8216;relatively cheaply&#8217; (_very_ relatively) plug in your laptop (as stupidly most internet cafes don&#8217;t allow this) would be &#8230; uhm, I forgot their names, but one is on Broadway (slightly west of Railway Square), half a block before Glebe Point Road ($3/hr, $10 unlimited, $4 unlimited (3 hours) after 20:30), and another one is on the south side of the railway station (sorry, forgot the name of the street) &#8211; it&#8217;s on a corner iirc &#8211; walk parallel to the rails on the first major street and you should come across it &#8211; $2.50/hr</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
		<link>http://stopdesign.com/archive/2004/09/27/sydney-wireless.html#comment-2363</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 08:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the same question last April, and found that theXone has a few hotspots in the city, they are not free :
http://www.thexone.com.au/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=64

Chocolate by the Bald Man, in Manly wharf, has one even if the waitresses don&#039;t know it. The signal was low but useable. And the chocolate and Manly are a big plus :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same question last April, and found that theXone has a few hotspots in the city, they are not free :<br />
<a href="http://www.thexone.com.au/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=64" rel="nofollow">http://www.thexone.com.au/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=64</a></p>
<p>Chocolate by the Bald Man, in Manly wharf, has one even if the waitresses don&#8217;t know it. The signal was low but useable. And the chocolate and Manly are a big plus :)</p>
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